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upsman Feb 25, 2021
OK thank you, I’ll do some research here. the snow is gone here so I’m going to pitch into a net today. My short swing game has been really good, this just popped up yesterday (I had one last week) and it really rattled me. If I can’t resolve it I will send you a video. Thanks!cguyaok Aug 08, 2014
Lowered the driver to eight degrees-ball off instep-rotated through and ball had a pro -trajectory landing with a soft fade of about 5 yards. You were right Ross!
Should add my stance was open-dur [biggrin] there is my penetrating draw-slightly closed stance!
Patrick
cguyaok Aug 06, 2014
Ross, very pleased with: 1) locking out elbows 2)squared right foot open left foot 3) hovering driver 4) strong right hip turn into ball 5) new ball positions forward 6) distances and aims -brilliant stuff!
Why are my drives all high draws? could the high tee have that influence all things being equal?
Pat
davew Aug 04, 2014
Ross, On the downswing I have a thought which may, on first sight seem obvious, but in reality it has made a great deal of difference to my results. It is on you theme of unwinding from the ground up (yes, I am still concentrating on the turn back) where we most naturally think of turning the hips. This was not really working for me so I really thought about what needed to happen. I realised the only way to get my mind to execute a powerful turn was to think of the feet really driving the leg’s through to a finish whilst maintaining posture.
This is the most effective way I have had to execute the turn back and I really feel as though I am hitting the ball with my core rather than hand’/arms etc. I am convinced once this is more embodied my game will improve a lot. So, I think ‘unwind from the ground up’ is EXACTLY right.RAM Oct 14, 2014
I will experiment with that. I have the 5 lessons book that has been read over and over like so many other golfers have, and remember that he promoted a square right foot and flared left. His teaching method produced some short term results, but nothing like the consistency of yours. I remember reading a John Jacobs quote that stated that he had never been so busy straightening out students that had read the Hogan book. Thanks for straightening me out.
RAM Oct 13, 2014
I constantly re-read past posts, but I think I missed that one. My swing thought on Saturday was to turn as if the grip was in my breast bone and my hands were down on the shaft ( I think this was in the Leadbetter book. One of too many that I have read over the years), but the result is similar. I just found a stack of pages of Golf, Golf Digest, Golf Tips magazines that I cut out and saved thinking that they would help me. They have gone in the dumpster. Too much information! I hope this is working out for you, don’t go away. What is your thought on how to increase rotation speed while staying in balance? Is it more a flexibility issue, or fast twitch muscle thing. I am 61 and have always had a, slower fluid move, not explosive. Thanks again.RAM Oct 11, 2014
This is in regard to the chest and turning. Things were going great, solid contact and straight. Then the fats and thins started creeping back in and suddenly I felt I was back where I was before discovering Ross’s method. Always go back to the basic template and drills. I had stopped turning around the spine. Some how I was moving the shoulders, keeping the arm positions correct, but was not really turning. I was trying too hard not to move off the ball. Now everything is solid and straight, this system is by far the best ever, easy to self correct. Thanks Ross!RAM
Jeff_M Aug 28, 2014
Thanks Ross, that shape (template) visualization helps. Also, I remember awhile back you said to feel as if someone was pulling on your front belt loop to unwind on the downswing. Thus helps me avoid shifting and focus more on the rotary turn.
JeffJeff_M Aug 25, 2014
Hi Ross,
I strike my irons solid with your method but I can’t figure out the driver. I suspect my hands are still trying to get involved. I had a few rounds where I thought I saw the light but I lost it the next day. I’m not sure what you mean when you say “keep the wrist angles constant.” What’s the best drill/advice to quite the hands on the driver?
Thanks,
JeffDaveF Aug 22, 2014
Ross,
Hit some really pure shots last weekend, thanks for that!
I noticed that when I relaxed my entire left side and slowed the backswing down, it gave me the freedom to turn back with the feeling of no lower body movement. When I can do that, it makes turning on the downswing almost automatic. It feels awesome when it happens. However, finding it difficult to recapture that feeling. Using a mirror I’m noticing my hips keep getting pulled early in the backswing and I sway slightly.
I keep attributing it to flexibility, but I think it’s something else. Per your post, Thinking “move shoulders, not chest” has me rotating higher up on my spine without pulling my hips too soon. It feels similar to putting, in the sense of keeping centered over the ball.
Anyway, after 3 consecutive days of golf last weekend, and hitting more consistently than ever before, I captured what it felt like to execute the swing, so I’m excited, hoping I can do it on a regular basis. It’s sure not from a lack of trying!
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Ross Aug 22, 2014
Great DaveF !! I don’t think you have to “hope” you can do it on a regular basis. The more you stay focused on this, the more you will learn about “it” and your confidence will grow. Putting in the time is what confidence is all about. As you work on, or with something, you’ll find how it works, breaks, and how to fix it the next swing. That is what builds consistency. I’m sure no one hits perfect shots every time, it is about getting back on track asap, as to not lose strokes and confidence. The more you work and stay focused on one thing, the more familiar you are with it (and yourself).davew Jun 27, 2014
Hi Ross,I will try again to load my question/comment. I assume by chest ‘moving slightly’ you mean in a lateral away from and towards the target (not swaying) due to the centre of rotation being about the spine.
This is good thought to have like turn the front shoulder or whatever that will cause the spine to be the centre of rotation. I am sure that many of us cannot even sense necessarily any lateral motion of the spine that could be happening above and beyond this i.e. we think we are staying centred until we see a shadow of our head moving laterally (this is a great method to get the feeling of staying centred – watch your shadow on a practice swing). Any lateral movement of the spine could have potentially disastrous consequences for the motion into impact and you are right to major on it.
I will certainly take on board the chest thought.
Best Regard’s,
DaveRichard Jun 27, 2014
All I can say Ross, is that this tip has given amazing results over the last 2 days. Finally know what it feels like to rotate around the spine properly. This “chest focus” actually seems to do this automatically. Great, great swing thought.Thank you for all your kindness,
Jay
P.s. Your kindness and BRILLIANCE is the reason I’ve gone from a 15ish to a 5.4 (and dropping) in the last 2 yrs (we only have a 7 month season up here)…and winning my club championship last year. Obviously, I’m beyond grateful to have found you.
carlgo Mar 06, 2016
Do competitive brands of irons have a wide variation of all these angles and offsets?While we are on the subject, I have always wanted to ask about all these “helpful” angles and offsets and all. It seems if you are off a hair at the top, you are way off at the ball, like everything is magnified rather than compensated for. Just imagining, but it almost seems like one of those antique clubs might be easier to hit as they have no offsets or forward lean, only a loft angle and lie angle. I am tempted to weld up a steel iron sort of thing and attach it to a shaft and see what happens.
The advertisements often tout how their new club helps shape shots, something that is years away for the average golfer as far as I can see. We put 100% of our effort into hitting the ball, getting it up in the air, hitting it straight and hopefully for some happy distance. I don’t see many people on the range hitting curve balls on purpose.
reneke Aug 13, 2016
@DaveIMHO during the upswing you have to feel the torque on the inside of your trail leg (“screwing the right heel in the ground”).
Downswing starts with pushing off on the inside of the trail foot followed by turning front hip backwards.
Please correct me Ross if y am wrongDaveF Jul 10, 2016
Ross,
At the top I feel my left knee holding my lower body in place as I torque against it, but no change in my right instep as you describe. On the downswing, I feel like i’m pushing off my left leg too, not any push from the right one. What am I doing incorrectly?
I thought pushing off the right side in the traditional swing was because of the weight shift. Like you stated, it feels automatic when it starts from the ground up, so maybe i’m doing it but just not as conscious of it.The last couple of rounds I’ve started to relax and trust the swing, so I felt like I had no tension at all, like taking a chip shot, but hitting it 1-3 clubs longer!
Thanks for clarifying.
